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From Brazil to Hamburg: Tackling Greenhouse Gases – Together

Two Brazilian researchers, Dr. Mila Vieira da Rocha and Daniel Santos, are spending several months in Hamburg as part of an international research collaboration. The collaboration was established by the approval of PROBRAL-Programm supported by DAAD and CAPES. In this interview, they discuss their work, the challenges of adapting to a new country, and why international exchange programs are crucial for scientific progress.

 

© HAW Hamburg / Helen Kemmler

Dr. Mila Vieira and Daniel Santos from Brazil - an international research collaboration

HAW HAMBURG: Hi Mila and Daniel, it’s great to have you here! Would you like to tell us a bit about yourselves?

Mila: Hi, my name is Mila Rocha. I'm from Brazil, specifically from the state of Rio de Janeiro. I have a degree in physics. During my PHD and my Postdoc, My research focus has been on applying a physic-based technique to study target gases of environmental interest and I work on developing sensors for detecting greenhouse gases in agricultural settings.

Daniel: I am Daniel Santos, and I am also from Brazil, from the same city as Mila. I have a bachelor’s degree in physics and a master’s in natural sciences. Mila and I worked together in Brazil before coming to Germany as part of the same research program (DAAD). I started my PhD in natural sciences in 2022, focusing on improving sensor technology for detecting greenhouse gases and multiple gas detection by photoacoustic spectroscopy.

HAW HAMBURG: Could you tell us a bit more about your research project? What’s the focus of your work?

Mila: Our focus is on developing sensors for detecting greenhouse gases, especially nitrous oxide. Even though there’s less of it in the atmosphere than CO₂, it’s almost 300 times more potent in terms of global warming. Since agriculture is a major source of nitrous oxide emissions, we’re looking for better ways to measure and monitor it.

HAW HAMBURG: That sounds like an exciting approach. What are the biggest challenges in making these sensors usable in real-world conditions?

Daniel: And the key challenge is cost. In Brazil, we used very precise laser-based sensors, but they cost over €15,000 each — not exactly practical for widespread and industrial use.

Mila: Here in Hamburg, we’re working on an LED-based alternative that could cost less than €1,000. If we can maintain accuracy at a fraction of the cost, this could be a game-changer.
 Right now, we’re still perfecting the sensors, but soon we’ll start comparing our results with agricultural data from Brazil.

HAW HAMBURG: So, what brought you to Hamburg?

Mila: Our project is part of a research exchange program between Brazilian and German universities, funded by the DAAD and CAPES. The idea is to bring together expertise from both sides. We’re here in Hamburg now, but German researchers have also traveled to Brazil as part of the program. 

Daniel: And that’s important! Brazil has a strong scientific community and valuable expertise, especially when it comes to tropical agriculture. By working together, both countries benefit — Germany can learn more about agricultural practices and environmental challenges in tropical regions, while we gain new perspectives and access to different technologies and research infrastructures. It’s a real exchange of knowledge and experience.

HAW HAMBURG: What was your first big impression — or maybe even a little culture shock?

Daniel: The cold! Seriously, in our hometown, it’s always around 30°C. We arrived in October and had to go straight into winter mode. At first, even 10°C felt freezing, but now it’s not so bad. But below zero? Still a struggle! 

Mila: I thought the cultural differences would be harder to adjust to, but I was pleasantly surprised. People in our research group have been very welcoming, and living in a student accommodation helped a lot — we met people from all over the world right away. 

Science advances when knowledge is shared across borders.

Daniel Santos, scientist from Brazil

HAW HAMBURG: What are your favorite things about Hamburg so far?

Mila: I love the architecture and the international feel of the city. And people here are surprisingly helpful. Even when my German isn’t great, they often switch to English to make things easier. 

Daniel: The public transport! In Brazil, only the biggest cities have decent networks, but here, I can get anywhere quickly with the U-Bahn or S-Bahn. It makes life so much easier.  And Hamburg has beautiful places like “Landungsbrücken” and “Stadtpark”. I also really enjoy watching St. Pauli games at the “Millerntor”.

HAW HAMBURG: And what about the food—any favorites?

Mila: Franzbrötchen! I didn’t expect to enjoy German food so much. Especially because my first long term experience in Europe was in England and I wasn’t a fan of the food there, but Hamburg has an amazing variety of great international restaurants. 

Daniel: For me, it’s Gulasch and Krautsalat. Also, I really appreciate the beers and the coffee culture here — it’s strong and everywhere! 

HAW HAMBURG: What have you taken away from this experience so far?

Mila: To appreciate the little things! In Brazil, we take sunshine for granted, but here, I get excited for every sunny or snowy day. 

Daniel:  Adaptation and resilience. Also, I’ve seen how much Germany values science and research. That’s something I want to help strengthen in Brazil when I return.  Especially for something like fundings.

HAW HAMBURG: After everything you’ve experienced, how important do you think are research exchanges like this?

Mila: Absolutely essential. In Brazil, young researchers don’t always see what’s possible because opportunities, funding and infrastructure can be limited. Being here opens our eyes to new ways of working and thinking science. 

Daniel: And it’s not just about Brazil and Germany — this kind of collaboration should happen everywhere. Science advances when knowledge is shared across borders. 

HAW HAMBURG: Thank you so much for your time and for sharing your insights with us. We wish you all the best for your research — and many more sunny days in Hamburg!

Interview: Helen Kemmler

 

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